krazy kat&#39;s korner

It eludes me to?

Thankgod she's not on LJ.

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I was wondering whether I should have friends locked this post ;)
But that story of hers is horrific. And yet she has the hide to flame people over one wrongly spelt word or their opinion.
I don't recall one instance of the show where there's even been a hint that Jed desperately wanted a son.

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I've always got the impression that Jed is perfectly happy with Abbey and the three daughters and wouldn't have it any other way.

lock it if you want, but your not the only one that has had a run in with her.

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I'm going to be big and brave :)
And it's a bit of a relief I'm not the only one. Does she go around purposely trying to annoy people?
I'm calmer about her now...I think. Was to the point just seeing her name sparked panic attacks.

And yes. But I guess they buy into the society stereotyping that a man has to want a son.
Bleh.

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I think she is just soooo far up her self! I am so disappointed that she moderates the yahoo list for my favourite pairing. I wanted to upload screencaps there, but she made it so only her and the moderators had access to the photos section.

I can't believe that someone with such poor writing skills can have the gall to start up a fanfiction list and then discourage other activities unrelated to writing.

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Many sympathies.
I only lurk on that group and been close to bailing several times (I left the CJ/Simon list because of her).
And most of the fanfic lists encourage screencaps/other news etc.

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Thankfully, she is not the moderator on the CJ/Simon list.

I've been thinking for some time now that I should unsubscribe from many of my lists. As someone who doesn't write very much there doesn't seem to be a place for me on fanfic lists and much of the fiction that is posted isn't worth the read. I'm afraid, yahoo has become the place for the novice to post.

I think it is active discussion, the regular posting of items of interest such as photos and news that keep a yahoo group going strong. Just look at the CJ/Toby group.

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That didn't stop her from attacking me several times there.
I never particularly liked that list, very few good stories/writers after the initial burst of activity.

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sweetly-savage.livejournal.com

That still pisses me off. The attacking thing. I'm quite certain it stems from jealousy. You really have a talent, honey. Unfortunately not everyone is adult enough to handle it well.

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I don't whether it was about that, or because I had the audacity to call her on her childish behaviour (flaming, yelling at the spammers even though she admitted that she knew they weren't there to listen (then why the fuck yell at them to just give us another idiot to yell at)).
She's apparently in her early 20s, acts more like a 10 year old.
I'v managed to keep under the radar on the CJ/Ron list, but I do definitely keep thinking I should leave it.

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sweetly-savage.livejournal.com

I just sent you an email to your LJ email address. I have no idea how to access the LJ email - never received one to my knowledge. ; ) So, I hope you get it.

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I don't know how to access LJ email either. I havn't recieved it, so could you please resend it to sheridens@ihug.com.au. In the meanwhile I shall investigate LJ email.

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When you get your paid account, you set it up to forward to an existing account. I send it to my phone LOL.

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According to the FAQ it should be automatically forwarded to the email address I supplied. But it doesn't seem to be working.

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He was asked, once. Somebody had written a book alleging, among other things, that he wore special underwear in an effort to conceive a male child, and poor C.J. had to ask him about it. He denied it, of course.

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Oh, that stupid book with all the mistakes?

I just don't see him thinking he missed out on anything. And as for these stories which has Abbey deciding he wants a son and asking CJ to have it...that's so not Abbey. If Jed ever complained about not having a son she'd be more likely to tell him to grow up and be thankful for what he has got.
They have no feeling for the characters.

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Haven't seen that one, but it's a particularly weird concept given C.J.'s age and Abbey's profession. She'd know better.

Mallory, maybe, or possibly Zoey.

Now see what you've done?
*drowns misshappen plot bunnies and buries them DEEP*

As for the president, I can almost see justification, in that he's pretty much adopted Josh and Charlie (as well as C.J., which works against the theory). I don't think he'd ever admit it, though, and he certainly wouldn't do anything to make it public knowledge.

I'm reading a piece now where an illegitimate son of Jed's, conceived before his marriage and born without his knowledge, shows up and causes Abbie all sorts of angst along these lines. It doesn't require too much suspension of disbelief.

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Bury them very deep!

It stands to reason his staff would be like his kids, and they're mostly male. That's just the reality.

I just loathe the whole 'He must want a son' idea. It's so stereotyped, up there with every woman wants a baby.
ANd the added problem is that the majority of people who try to write these storylines can't write. Only a very precious few would be able to pull them off.

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And actually thinking about the relationships more...Josh is more Leo's son.
CJ and Charlie are the only ones Jed really treats as his kids.

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This is very true.

But in Two Cathedrals, he actually said it: "That was my son! What did I ever do to yours?"

Should I capitalize some of that? Dunno; not religious.

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Not religious either...
I guess i see a difference between treating them as his sons/daughters and "wanting" a biological son.

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I see the difference, too, but I think there's room to explore it as a what-if, although I agree that I haven't seen a really good treatment of the theme.

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soft-lite.livejournal.com

Okay, so this wasn't on a list I'm on, so which list are we talking about?

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a cj-jed list. The only reason I've been there is there's been some non-romantic fic. The romantic stuff doesn't work for me.

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roguetailkinker.livejournal.com

I've shuddered at some of the crap that's passed as fanfiction. (I won't even get started about the atrocious CSI fic I read a week ago.)

I guess there's just tasteless gits in every group, and they all provide an apprecitive audience for each other's scrawlings. *shrugs*

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They really need their pens/paper/keyboard confiscated.
I know how anxious I am before posting anything, a lot of the time i need to be pushed. I don't know how anyone could put out that crap with their name on it and be happy/proud of it.

Yeah, they probably all band together.
Her fans tend to be people I've never heard of, so they probably don't even read or understand the good ones.

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I've had a run-in or two with the darling 'writer' you've mentioned, and I know of a few others who feel the same as I do - my skin crawls when something from her appears in my inbox and inevitably I have the urge to throw something at my screen.

I make an effort to read everything, though her stories are lost on me. I read this latest one out thanks to that train-wreck mentality that seems to strike me so early in the morning and it was atrocious. Not even just bad, but atrocious. Still, I can usually get through 'bad' fic and shrug it off as 'just not my tastes' but when the author so clearly thinks they're Shakespeare incarnate I get tempermental.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that you're definitely not alone (and as evidenced, there are many more of us who feel repulsion by her fic) and those people who praise her talents...well, look at the source of the praise and you'll understand. ;)

mcgarrylust
(mamc031282 on list)

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You know, it's made me feel a lot better to know I'm not alone. Because a while ago I was at the point of thinking I was the problem.

It isn't just that she is an atrocious 'writer'. It's her whole general attitude. In some circles I'm sure she'd be labelled a troll.

Seriously considering leaving that list...I've culled a few she's been heavily involved in, funnily enough they're the ones with virtually only badfic.

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In the past I've left lists due to members/mods and I've realized that depending on the circumstances, it really is iffy as to how well it turns out...

Major lists in the fandom I find are my major source of fic (I have a hard time finding fic I've not read on the websites I know of) so to leave would be a huge disappointment to me. But I do understand why you'd want to leave the group. She's certainly made me feel reluctant to ever post again (unfortunately) just because of the mood she's imposed on the list. *sigh*

Well, if you leave you'll be missed, but we certainly couldn't fault you for escaping.

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I'm not entirely sure I've ever posted to the jed-cj list...maybe once or twice and no fic, so I really wouldn't be any loss.
She doesn't seem to say much on the very major lists thank goodness.
She was close to driving me from the cj/danny list, but I've vowed that no one will make me leave there.

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well, if you feedback at all it would be a loss, because there are certainly too few people feedbacking - I'm guilty of not doing it enough, which is a habit I'm trying to break, but so far with little luck.

What does she have against people at the CJ/Danny, 'cause that's where she and I butted heads, and I have to say she was very... unpleasant.

Oh well... Try to stay positive-she's the crazy one, not you.

Meanwhile, I have five whole minutes of work to do - I love that I can surf the web and get paid for it. :) Makes the work that much MORE enjoyable.

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I tend to be pretty picky on what I feedback, there really hasn't been much on that list to make me want to feedback.
And I have no idea what her problem is. I just wish she'd take it elsewhere.

And that's a good job! Can I get one??? ;)

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We may have to fire most of our staff, so hey, if you need a job and don't mind one hell of a commute... ;)

Meanwhile, there's another lull with nothing to do. *sigh* So, now I'm off to find fic. Wish me luck.

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Which idiot? *looks worried* I haven't written anything lately.

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Well unless I've had run-ins with you that I don't recall and your email name begins with a F...
You're safe, Hon :)

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*looks at list of e-mails* Nope, that's one letter that my emails begin with.

I assume it's on a yahoo! group? And I assume it's the one who helped support my leaving of the cjdanny list.

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flamingoidiot?
And she was the one who made you leave??? I feel like going and stamping on her some more.
What did she do? I wish I'd known at the time, I would've had something very strong to say.

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She was one of the one. Between her annoyingness and the rudeness I was getting from Lauren over my views, it just wasn't worth going to the list. Plus, the majority of the fanfic I read anymore comes from you, Athena and Writer so I know where to find the stories if I want to read them. And the feedback I get comes from the three same people so *shrugs* It's better for me emotionally to read and post here on LJ than it is to go to the list. It's not like anyone there has noticed.

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I'm really sorry I didn't pay more attention to rudeness to you. I've failed as a friend.

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*huggles* It's okay. Most of the rudeness happens off list in AIM and Y!M and it's just not worth writing about anywhere. You haven't failed me at all. *shakes head no* You have been a great friend. *huggles*

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Glad I don't really use aim etc and have avoided those people.
And many hugs to you.

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pixiesio.livejournal.com

Two Ronnies. *giggle*

As for fic authors who get praised when not really deserving it? I see that constantly, and the people who do the praising haven't read anything good enough to compare against it. That or they're so starved for any fic that they'll praise even the bad writers to have more. ;P

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Someone knows them!!! :)

It just gets so disheartening. ANd I'd give anything to be the person to go and pull their stories apart...but I'm too nice.

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pixiesio.livejournal.com

Someone knows them!!! :)

Yup! Grew up on a steady diet of anything from the UK/Ireland/Oz. <g>

It just gets so disheartening. ANd I'd give anything to be the person to go and pull their stories apart...but I'm too nice.

Yeah, I know, me too.

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soft-lite.livejournal.com

No idea who the two Ronnies are. But the two Johns makes me think of the kind that get arrested on Law & Order SVU. LOL!

The only possible canon source for Jed wanting a son is that ridiculous tell-all book that some WH reporter wrote - which brought about that hilarious scene in which CJ read a quote about Jed's underwear and we see them exchange those priceless expressions!

*sighs* Is there more garbage on the list today? Now I'm dreading going there... As for the praise she gets, my guesses are 1) she writes fluff and that's what people like and/or 2) a bunch of them signed onto the list because they were ALREADY her friends and that's why they give feedback to no one but her.

Just my personal opinion...

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I don't think they'd be her friends. I think there might be a third group out there that are intimidated by very good well constructed writing. They know they could never achieve similar, so they tend to praise people that they think are at their own level.

I notice those writers who get a lot a feed back on the lists tend to be the ones who are able to strike a happy balance between writing the non-serious, fluff and something that can be considered well constructed because they appeal to writers at several levels.

Just my theory!

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The Two Ronnies are Ronnie Corbett and Ronnie Barker, English comedy duo, particularly big in the 70s IIRC.
Hilarious, one short, one big.

Probably gets praise because it requires no thought processing...yes, I'm bitter ;)

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michellek.livejournal.com

This is that craptastic thing on the CJ/Jed list, right? Bleh. I don't know why she gets feedback, but it hurts me. My eyes, my feelings, my sense of self. (Okay, maybe I'm overstating it, but I can't understand why *good* writers I know mention receiving little to no feedback, and she's getting several on list replies. Eludes me, it does.)

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