odds and ends

[krazykitkat]

Was watching the story on the DNC on the late news last night and mum said, "The two Johns. Are they anything like the two Ronnies?"
*not sure how many of the USers know the Two Ronnies*

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As soon as you turn on the radio/stereo/tv, CJ starts whistling and chattering away.
And they love corn on the cob.

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Where the fuck do all these fanfic authors (I shudder to use that expression in relation to them) get the idea that Jed desperately wanted/wants a son?
And as for the trainwreck from that idiot that I've had run-ins with...her characters are unrecognisable, the storyline is so far off the rails...and yet she has others praising her and wanting more?
It eludes me.

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[writerpuppy.livejournal.com]

He was asked, once. Somebody had written a book alleging, among other things, that he wore special underwear in an effort to conceive a male child, and poor C.J. had to ask him about it. He denied it, of course.

[krazykitkat.livejournal.com]

Oh, that stupid book with all the mistakes?

I just don't see him thinking he missed out on anything. And as for these stories which has Abbey deciding he wants a son and asking CJ to have it...that's so not Abbey. If Jed ever complained about not having a son she'd be more likely to tell him to grow up and be thankful for what he has got.
They have no feeling for the characters.

[writerpuppy.livejournal.com]

Haven't seen that one, but it's a particularly weird concept given C.J.'s age and Abbey's profession. She'd know better.

Mallory, maybe, or possibly Zoey.

Now see what you've done?
*drowns misshappen plot bunnies and buries them DEEP*

As for the president, I can almost see justification, in that he's pretty much adopted Josh and Charlie (as well as C.J., which works against the theory). I don't think he'd ever admit it, though, and he certainly wouldn't do anything to make it public knowledge.

I'm reading a piece now where an illegitimate son of Jed's, conceived before his marriage and born without his knowledge, shows up and causes Abbie all sorts of angst along these lines. It doesn't require too much suspension of disbelief.

[krazykitkat.livejournal.com]

Bury them very deep!

It stands to reason his staff would be like his kids, and they're mostly male. That's just the reality.

I just loathe the whole 'He must want a son' idea. It's so stereotyped, up there with every woman wants a baby.
ANd the added problem is that the majority of people who try to write these storylines can't write. Only a very precious few would be able to pull them off.

[krazykitkat.livejournal.com]

And actually thinking about the relationships more...Josh is more Leo's son.
CJ and Charlie are the only ones Jed really treats as his kids.

[writerpuppy.livejournal.com]

This is very true.

But in Two Cathedrals, he actually said it: "That was my son! What did I ever do to yours?"

Should I capitalize some of that? Dunno; not religious.

[krazykitkat.livejournal.com]

Not religious either...
I guess i see a difference between treating them as his sons/daughters and "wanting" a biological son.

[writerpuppy.livejournal.com]

I see the difference, too, but I think there's room to explore it as a what-if, although I agree that I haven't seen a really good treatment of the theme.